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- یm EXCERPT, Page 68Khrushchev's Secret TapesBy Nikita Khrushchev
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- [(c) 1990 by Little, Brown and Company (Inc.). Translation (c)
- 1990 by Jerrold L. Schecter.]
-
-
- Ousted from power in 1964, Nikita Khrushchev became a
- nonperson, living out his last seven years under virtual house
- arrest in the village of Petrovo-Dalneye, on the outskirts of
- Moscow. To keep himself going but also to make sure that his
- side of the story survived, Khrushchev dictated hundreds of
- hours of reminiscences. Many of the tapes were smuggled to the
- West, and Little, Brown published two volumes of memoirs:
- Khrushchev Remembers in 1970 and Khrushchev Remembers: The Last
- Testament in 1974.
-
- Khrushchev's relatives and friends feared, however, that the
- former Kremlin ruler had sometimes gone too far in fulminating
- against the shortcomings of the Soviet system, denouncing
- political figures who were still alive and exposing what the
- authorities would consider state secrets. So, to avert
- reprisals, they held back some of the tapes.
-
- Last year -- with the Soviet Union officially willing as
- never before to hear the often ugly truth about its past, with
- Mikhail Gorbachev emulating some of Khrushchev's reforms and
- with the "special pensioner" of Petrovo-Dalneye undergoing a
- posthumous rehabilitation -- TIME acquired the missing tapes.
- It was no wonder they had been kept secret: in them, Khrushchev
- sheds startling new light on Stalin's complicity in the murder
- that launched the savage purges of the 1930s; on a secret
- overture to Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime during World War II; and
- on Fidel Castro's apocalyptic recklessness during the Cuban
- missile crisis of 1962.
-
- What follows is excerpted from Khrushchev Remembers: The
- Glasnost Tapes, to be published in October by Little, Brown.
-
-
- My time has passed. I'm very tired. I'm at the age when I
- have nothing before me but the past. My future is only to go
- to my grave. I am not afraid of death. In fact, I want to die.
- My situation is so dull and boring. But I do want this
- opportunity to express my opinion one last time.
-
- My generation has lived through revolution, civil war, the
- transition from capitalism to socialism, the Great Patriotic
- War, the development and strengthening of socialism. I was
- lucky enough to be part of the process, from the smallest cell
- of our party organization right on up to the Politburo, and to
- have been involved in our country's social and political
- reconstruction [he uses the word perestroika].
-
- Based on the most progressive of theories, Marxism-Leninism,
- we followed a complicated path that included mistakes and
- outrages -- some deliberate, some innocent. For those, let our
- descendants forgive us.
-
- I'm not suggesting that what I have to say is the final
- truth. No, let history be the judge. Let the people decide.
-
-
- Death in Leningrad
-
- The story of Sergei Kirov's murder helps draw back the
- curtain on how the meat grinder of the purges got started.
- First, though, I must describe the atmosphere of those times
- -- the early days, before a petty bourgeois mentality began to
- take over the party. Those were romantic times. We gave no
- thought to dachas and fancy clothes. All our time was spent on
- work.
-
- When I attended the 17th Party Congress in 1934, we were
- told that only six people at the congress [out of 1,966] had
- cast votes against Stalin. Years later, it emerged that
- actually the figure was more like 260, which is incredible if
- you take into account Stalin's position and his vanity.
-
- Stalin knew perfectly well who might have voted against him
- -- certainly not the likes of Khrushchev, who had risen through
- the ranks under Stalin and who deified him. No, Stalin
- understood that it was the old cadres from Lenin's time who
- were displeased with him.
-
- During the 17th Congress, a party secretary from the North
- Caucasus went to see Kirov, the Leningrad party chief, and
- said, confidentially, "There's talk among the old cadres that
- the time has come to replace Stalin with someone who will treat
- those around him with more decency. The people in our circle
- say you should be made the General Secretary."
-
- Kirov went to Stalin and told him everything. Stalin
- listened and replied simply, "Thank you, Comrade Kirov."
-
- In late 1934, Leonid Nikolayev, a disgruntled ex-Bolshevik,
- showed up outside the Smolny Institute in Leningrad, where
- Kirov's office was located. Nikolayev was arrested, probably
- because he looked suspicious. He was searched and found to be
- carrying a gun. Yet he was set free. The only conclusion is
- that he was released on orders from higher-ups in the same
- organization who had sent him to commit a terrorist act. A
- short time afterward, Nikolayev penetrated Smolny and shot Kirov
- as he was coming up the stairway. Kirov's bodyguard had lagged
- behind.
-
- Later there was a rumor that Stalin demanded that Nikolayev
- be brought before him. Nikolayev fell to his knees, said he had
- acted on orders and begged for mercy. Maybe he figured he would
- be allowed to live because he had only carried out his mission.
- He was a fool. For the mission to remain secret, he had to be
- exterminated. And so he was.
-
- Something else I know. When Stalin came to Leningrad to
- investigate Kirov's murder, he ordered the commissar who had
- been personally responsible for guarding Kirov that day brought
- to him for interrogation. The truck taking him to see Stalin
- crashed, and the commissar was killed.
-
- Much later, there was an attempt to find and question the
- people who were escorting the commissar at the time of the
- accident. They had all been shot. I suggested looking for the
- driver. Fortunately, he was alive. He told us there hadn't been
- a serious accident at all, just a dented fender. But he did
- recall hearing a thump in the back of the covered truck. That
- was the end of the commissar.
-
- I have no doubt that Stalin was behind the plot. Kirov had
- turned the Leningrad party organization into a good, active
- group. He was very popular, so a blow aimed at him would hurt
- the party and the people. That's probably why he was marked for
- sacrifice: his death provided a pretext for shaking up the
- country, alarming the people so that they would accept the
- terror and let Stalin get rid of the undesirables and "enemies
- of the people."
-
- Stalin started by crushing the Old Bolsheviks, then
- broadened the purge to annihilate the flower of our party, our
- army, our intelligentsia and ordinary people.
-
- I came under suspicion on two occasions. During the period
- when members of the Comintern, or Communist International,
- started disappearing into the meat grinder, the Polish
- representatives were virtually all arrested and shot as enemy
- agents. I came to Moscow from the Ukraine for a Central
- Committee meeting. Nikolai Yezhov, chief of the secret police,
- and I were standing around, and Stalin came over. He shoved his
- finger into my shoulder and said, "What's your name?"
-
- "Comrade Stalin," I said in surprise, "I'm Khrushchev."
-
- "No, you're not," said Stalin brusquely. "Someone's told me
- that you're really named so-and-so." I can't remember the
- Polish name he mentioned, but it was completely new to me.
-
- "How can you say that, Comrade Stalin?" I replied. "My
- mother is still alive. You can ask her. You can check at the
- plant where I worked, or in my village of Kalinovka in Kursk."
-
- "Well," he answered, "I'm just telling you what I heard from
- Yezhov."
-
- Yezhov started to deny saying any such thing. Stalin then
- called Georgi Malenkov, who was at that time in charge of
- cadres for the Moscow party organization, as his witness,
- saying now that he was the one who had told him that I was
- really a Pole. Malenkov too denied he had said anything of the
- kind. The hunt for Poles had reached the point that Stalin was
- ready to turn Russians into Poles!
-
- Another time, Stalin asked me to come to the Kremlin. His
- face was, as usual, absolutely expressionless. He looked at me
- and said, "You know, Antipov has been arrested." Nikolai
- Antipov was a prominent politician from Leningrad.
-
- "No, I didn't know," I answered.
-
- "Well," said Stalin, "he had some evidence against you." He
- was staring into my eyes with that blank look of his.
-
- I stared back, at first not knowing what to say. Then I
- answered, "I don't know anything about the whole business. But
- I do know that Antipov could not offer any evidence against me,
- because we've had only a nodding acquaintance."
-
- I think Stalin was trying to read something in my eyes.
- Whatever he saw there gave him no reason to suspect any link
- between me and Antipov. If he'd somehow got the impression that
- I was trying to hide something, well, the world might soon have
- learned about a new enemy of the people.
-
-
- A Visitor from Berlin
-
- In the early hours of Aug. 24, 1939, Stalin was in a good
- mood. He told me that Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German
- Foreign Minister, had come the previous day with a draft treaty
- on friendship and nonaggression for us to sign. Stalin was
- elated. "Hitler wants to trick us," he said, "but I think we've
- got the better of him."
-
- He said the document we had signed would give us a free hand
- toward Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bessarabia and Finland. The
- fate of those countries would be up to us. Germany would be out
- of the picture.
-
- All this was very much to our advantage. I want to
- acknowledge this straightforwardly. The access we gained to the
- Baltic Sea significantly improved our strategic situation
- because it deprived the Western powers of a foothold that they
- might have used against us in the future.
-
- We'd been looking down the barrel of our enemy's gun, and
- Hitler had given us a chance to get out of the way. That was
- our justification for the pact, and it's still the way I see
- it today.
-
- Still, it was a very difficult step to take. Here we were
- -- communists, antifascists, people who were philosophically
- opposed to Hitler -- suddenly joining forces with him in this
- war. Stalin thought he was buying time. The treaty wouldn't
- save us from a German attack -- it would only give us a chance
- to catch our breath. The day he signed the pact with
- Ribbentrop, Stalin said, "Well, for the time being at least,
- we've deceived Hitler" -- showing he understood the
- inevitability of war.
-
- When Hitler moved with such lightning speed against France
- in 1940, it was clear that the war in the West was a rehearsal
- for one in the East. Stalin was extremely nervous. Even in
- normal times he had the habit of pacing during a meeting. On
- this occasion, he was racing around, cursing like a cabdriver.
- He cursed the French and the English. How could they allow
- Hitler to roll over them this way? Now it was our turn. Stalin
- understood that.
-
- No one with an ounce of political sense should buy the idea
- that we were caught flat-footed by a treacherous surprise
- assault. Yet to this day some of Stalin's lackeys are trying
- to whitewash his failure to prepare us adequately by saying
- Hitler fooled us by breaking the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
-
- I remember coming to see Stalin at the beginning of the war
- at the High Command Headquarters on Myasnitskaya Street. He was
- by then a sack of bones in a gray tunic. He asked me, "How's
- it going?"
-
- "Badly," I replied. "We've got no weapons."
-
- Stalin answered slowly, in a low voice. "Well, everyone
- talks about how smart Russians are. Look how smart we are now."
- On another occasion, early in the war, he said, "Lenin left us
- a state and we turned it to shit."
-
- As an illustration of how desperate he was, Stalin tried to
- make a very secret approach to Hitler during the war. I think
- it was in 1942. Stalin wanted to reach an agreement that would
- let the Germans keep the territory they occupied in the
- Ukraine, Belorussia and even certain areas of the Russian
- Federation. One of our people was sent to Bulgaria and
- instructed to inform a German contact there that the Soviet
- Union was willing to make some territorial concessions. There
- was never any answer from Hitler. Apparently, he felt the Soviet
- Union's days were numbered. Why enter into negotiations when
- everything was practically his anyway?
-
- Of course, Stalin would say that he was just stalling for
- time so that he could build up our forces and eventually win
- back what he had given away. But to gain time at the cost of
- such concessions!
-
- That was the Stalin I remember during the war. Yet after the
- victory, there he was, strutting around like a rooster, his
- chest puffed out and his nose sticking up in the sky.
-
- I still feel the pain of these memories. I still experience
- an ache for the people of Russia. Those who shield Stalin from
- blame are nothing but ass kissers.
-
-
- Waging the Cold War
-
- As the struggle against German fascism came to an end,
- Stalin was confident that communists would come to power in
- much of Western Europe. When Charles de Gaulle visited Moscow
- in 1944, Stalin got very drunk and teased him by asking, "Are
- you going to arrest [the French Communist leader Maurice]
- Thorez?" Thorez was living in Moscow at the time, but he was
- planning to return to Paris after the defeat of the Germans.
- Stalin signed a Franco-Soviet treaty during De Gaulle's visit,
- but he didn't attach much importance to it. "When Thorez arrives
- on the scene," he told us, "then the real work starts." At
- that time the Communist Party in France was large and powerful
- enough to have real political influence. It also had arms
- caches from the war.
-
- Later, there was a similar situation in Italy. Palmiro
- Togliatti, the Italian Communist leader, was ready to start an
- armed insurrection. Stalin restrained Togliatti. He warned that
- an insurrection would be crushed by the American forces there.
-
- Still, we had our hopes. Just as Russia came out of the
- First World War, made the revolution and established Soviet
- power, so after the catastrophe of World War II, Europe too
- might become Soviet. Everyone would take the path from
- capitalism to socialism. Stalin was convinced that postwar
- Germany would stage a revolution and create a proletarian
- state. Stalin wasn't the only one who incorrectly predicted
- this. All of us believed it. We had the same hopes for France
- and Italy.
-
- But events did not develop in our favor. The powerful
- economy of the U.S. prevented the devastated economies of the
- European countries from reaching the flash point of
- revolutionary explosion. Things did not happen the way we
- expected in accordance with Marxist-Leninist theory.
- Unfortunately, all these countries stayed capitalist, and we
- ended up being disappointed. We concentrated on the
- consolidation of the gains of socialism in the fraternal
- countries of Eastern Europe.
-
- In 1948, after the victory of the proletariat and the
- overthrow of the reactionary leadership in Czechoslovakia,
- Stalin was vacationing in the Crimea. Klement Gottwald, the
- Czechoslovak President, and his wife came for a visit. Stalin
- phoned and asked if I could come to the Crimea as soon as
- possible. "Gottwald is here and says he can't get along without
- you. He absolutely demands that you come." This was Stalin's
- idea of humor.
-
- The next day I flew to Yalta. We met over meals. By then
- Stalin could not resist forcing liquor on people to get them
- drunk. Gottwald already had a fondness for drink, so Stalin
- didn't have to work very hard at getting him drunk. I remember
- Gottwald saying, "Comrade Stalin, why are your people stealing
- our technical secrets? They steal everything they can. We can
- see what's happening. It's an insult to us. We have no secrets
- from you. If you need some new technology or advanced designs,
- just say so and we'll give them to you. That would be much
- better. We are fully prepared to become part of the Soviet
- Union. I am asking you, Comrade Stalin: let's sign a treaty
- adding Czechoslovakia to the Soviet Union."
-
- Stalin stopped him right there. "Well, anything is
- possible," he said vaguely. But in fact he categorically
- rejected the idea of Czechoslovakia's joining the Soviet Union.
- I think he was right to do that.
-
- Unfortunately, Stalin was not always so sensible. Some time
- later, during another meeting with Gottwald, Stalin asked if
- the Soviet Union should move its troops into Czechoslovakia.
- The reason could have been simply that the cold war was gaining
- momentum. Truman was President, and Stalin feared war with
- America.
-
- Gottwald answered, "Please, Comrade Stalin, anything but
- that! Under no circumstances should you send Soviet troops into
- our country. It would poison the well and create impossible
- difficulties for our own Communist Party."
-
- Fortunately, Stalin was just probing. Thank goodness we
- didn't move troops into Czechoslovakia -- at least not on that
- occasion. The Czechoslovaks had the warmest and the most
- brotherly feelings toward us, especially compared with the
- peoples of certain other countries.
-
- In 1955 we established the Warsaw Pact. Vyacheslav
- Mikhailovich Molotov, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, was
- instructed to prepare some proposals for the organization. He
- came up with a list of member states that did not include
- Albania and the German Democratic Republic.
-
- "Why aren't these countries on the list?" I asked him.
-
- Molotov answered that Albania was far away; it had no common
- border with the U.S.S.R. There was no way we could help
- Albania. As for the G.D.R., he threw the question back at us:
- "Why should we fight with the West over the G.D.R.?"
-
- I was amazed, but I patiently tried to explain the matter
- to him. "Don't you see, Vyacheslav Mikhailovich, that if we
- form a military organization with some socialist countries but
- not the G.D.R. and Albania, we'll be sending a signal to our
- Western foes. We'll be telling them, to put it crudely, `You
- are allowed to eat up Albania and the G.D.R.' We'd just be
- building up the appetite of the Western revanchists."
-
- In the end all of us, Molotov included, favored having the
- G.D.R. and Albania join the Warsaw Pact.
-
- In 1956, when we were debating whether or not to use
- military force against the counterrevolution in Hungary, I had
- a sharp disagreement with another comrade, Anastas Ivanovich
- Mikoyan, which caused me genuine sadness. Anastas Ivanovich and
- I were very close.
-
- Neither he nor Mikhail Suslov, the senior party ideologist,
- was at the meeting [at which the Soviet leaders decided to
- crush the Hungarian revolution with tanks]. They were in
- Hungary, trying to deal with the situation that was developing
- there. Mikoyan flew home only after we'd made our decision. His
- apartment and mine were on the same floor. When I told him
- about our decision, he objected strenuously that armed
- intervention was not right and that it would undermine the
- reputation of our government and party.
-
- I replied, "The decision has already been made. Besides, I
- agree with it."
-
- Anastas Ivanovich was quite agitated. He even threatened to
- do something to himself as a sign of protest -- I don't want
- to use his ominous words -- something about ending it all.
-
- "That would be very stupid," I told him. "I know that if you
- think about it, you'll see the necessity for our decision."
- Fortunately, he calmed down. We sent in our troops. Budapest
- put up quite a bit of resistance, but it was all over in a
- matter of days.
-
-
- Cuban Crisis
-
- I was haunted by the knowledge that the Americans could not
- stomach having Castro's Cuba right next door to them. Sooner
- or later the U.S. would do something. It had the strength, and
- it had the means. As they say, might makes right. How were we
- supposed to strengthen and reinforce Cuba? With diplomatic
- notes and TASS statements?
-
- The idea arose of placing our missile units in Cuba. Only
- a narrow circle of people knew about the plan. We concluded
- that we could send 42 missiles, each with a warhead of one
- megaton. We picked targets in the U.S. to inflict the maximum
- damage. We saw that our weapons could inspire terror. The two
- nuclear weapons the U.S. used against Japan at the end of the
- war were toys by comparison.
-
- We sent a military delegation to Cuba to inform Fidel about
- our proposals and get his consent. Castro gave his approval.
- We wanted to do the whole thing in secret. Our security organs
- assured us this was possible even though American planes
- overflew Cuban territory all the time. Supposedly, the palm
- trees would keep our missiles from being seen from the air. We
- installed the missiles aboveground because silos would have
- required too much time to build and we believed there was not
- much time before the Americans invaded. It was our intention
- after installing the missiles to announce their presence in a
- loud voice. They were not meant for attack but as a means of
- deterring those who would attack Cuba.
-
- The security people turned out to be wrong. The Americans
- caught us in the act of installing the missiles. In spite of
- all the uproar, we pushed ahead. When we began shipping the
- nuclear warheads, I constantly feared they would capture our
- ships. But they didn't. We installed the 42 missiles.
-
- Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko, the Foreign Minister, was in New
- York City at a United Nations session. He was invited by
- Secretary of State Dean Rusk to Washington. Our position was
- neither to confirm nor to deny the presence of missiles, but
- in answer to a direct question, we would deny. Later we were
- accused of perfidy and dishonesty. Look who was making this
- accusation -- the U.S., which had us encircled with its own
- military bases! We were just copying the methods used by our
- adversaries. Besides, we had both a legal and moral right to
- make an agreement with Cuba.
-
- Rusk told Gromyko, "We know everything."
-
- Gromyko answered like a Gypsy who's been caught stealing a
- horse: "It's not me, and it's not my horse. I don't know
- anything."
-
- Rusk said, "We'll see this through to the end. Tell
- Khrushchev we wish we could prevent all this from occurring,
- but anything may happen." In a word, he exerted pressure on us
- -- although I wouldn't go so far as to call it a threat; he
- appealed to us to do something to head off a confrontation.
-
- I told my comrades, "We've achieved our goal. Maybe the
- Americans have learned their lesson. Now they have the time to
- think it over and weigh the consequences."
-
- Kennedy was a clever President. I still regard him with
- great respect. He understood that in spite of the American
- advantages, the missiles we had already installed could strike
- New York City, Washington and other centers.
-
- Then we received a telegram from our ambassador in Cuba. He
- said Castro claimed to have reliable information that the
- Americans were preparing within a certain number of hours to
- strike Cuba. Our own intelligence also informed us that an
- invasion would probably be unavoidable unless we came to an
- agreement with the President quickly. Castro suggested that to
- prevent our nuclear missiles from being destroyed, we should
- launch a pre-emptive strike against the U.S.
-
- My comrades in the leadership and I realized that our friend
- Fidel totally failed to understand our purpose. We had
- installed the missiles not for the purpose of attacking the
- U.S. but to keep the U.S. from attacking Cuba.
-
- Then we received a message from President Kennedy through
- our ambassador in Washington, Anatoli Dobrynin. It was
- somewhere between threat and prayer; he both demanded and
- begged that we remove the missiles.
-
- We agreed to remove the rockets and warheads if the
- President would publicly give assurances, in his own name and
- that of his allies, that their armed forces would not invade
- Cuba. We sent a message to that effect to Washington, and the
- talks continued. Robert Kennedy was the basic intermediary. He
- showed a great deal of fortitude and sincerity in the way he
- helped to prevent an even worse conflict. President Kennedy
- assured us that there would be no invasion.
-
- Castro was hotheaded. He thought we were retreating --
- worse, capitulating. He did not understand that our action was
- necessary to prevent a military confrontation. He also thought
- that America would not keep its word and that once we had
- removed the missiles, the U.S. would invade Cuba. He was very
- angry with us, but we accepted this with understanding. We
- believed this came from his being young and inexperienced as
- a statesman. He had been deceived many times, so he had the
- right not to believe the word of the President. So we did not
- take offense, although we felt sorrow and pain to hear his
- words of disappointment in our Cuban policy.
-
- Later, when I met Castro in the Soviet Union, I told him,
- "You wanted to start a war with the U.S. If the war had
- started, we would somehow have survived, but Cuba no doubt
- would have ceased to exist. It would have been crushed into
- powder. Yet you suggested a nuclear strike!"
-
- "No, I did not," replied Castro.
-
- "How can you say that?" I asked Fidel.
-
- The interpreter added, "Fidel, Fidel, you yourself told me
- that."
-
- "No!" insisted Castro.
-
- We checked the documents. The interpreter said, "Here is the
- word war; here is the word blow."
-
- Fidel was embarrassed. He had failed to think through the
- obvious consequences of a proposal that placed the planet on
- the brink of extinction. The experience taught him a good
- lesson, and he later began to consider his behavior more
- thoroughly.
-
-
- Pride and Regret
-
- In 1958 there was a terrific commotion in Moscow about Boris
- Pasternak's novel Doctor Zhivago. Suslov, who was in charge of
- the Central Committee's Department of Agitation and Propaganda,
- told the Politburo the book was of poor quality and un-Soviet
- in tone; therefore it would be harmful to let it be published.
- I don't think anyone had read the book, and Suslov probably
- hadn't read it either; more likely he was given at most a
- three-page summary by an aide.
-
- I regret that I had a hand in banning the book. We should
- have given readers an opportunity to reach their own verdict.
- By banning Doctor Zhivago we caused much harm to the Soviet
- Union. The intelligentsia abroad, including many who were not
- opposed to socialism, rose up against us.
-
- Today you hear it said that we have no censorship. That's
- nonsense. That's talk for children. We have the most real --
- and I might even say the most cruel -- censorship. We should
- not turn criticism into censorship, because critics and
- ideologues will turn into police bullies.
-
- I just wish I'd handled the Pasternak affair the way I dealt
- with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's One Day in the Life of Ivan
- Denisovich [published in 1962]. In that case, I read the book
- myself. It is very heavy but well written. It made the reader
- react with revulsion to the conditions in which Ivan Denisovich
- and his friends lived while they served their terms.
-
- Only Suslov squawked. He wanted to hold everything in check.
- "You can't do this!" he said. "That's all there is to it. How
- will the people understand?" My answer then and now is that the
- people will always distinguish good from bad.
-
- In deciding not to interfere with Solzhenitsyn's book, I
- proceeded from the premise that the evil inflicted on the
- Communist Party and on the Soviet people had to be condemned;
- we had to lance the boil, to brand what had happened with shame
- so that it would never happen again. We had to brand the truth
- firmly into literature.
-
- Readers really devoured Solzhenitsyn's book. They were
- trying to find how an honest man could end up in such
- conditions in our socialist time and our socialist state.
-
- Stalin was to blame. He was a criminal in this respect, and
- criminals should be tried. They should be tried not only in a
- courtroom by a judge but by society as well. The strongest
- trial is to brand Stalin a criminal in literature.
-
- I am now of an age to repent my own mistakes of judgment
- about what to support. Too often we relied on administrative
- means rather than permitting events to develop in a creative
- direction. We were too concerned with what to restrain, what
- to forbid. I shared responsibility for that form of governing,
- but now I'm against it. We have to show tolerance toward
- change. Do these changes really affect communist ideology? In
- my opinion, no.
-
-
- The Question of Questions
-
- Nor should we be afraid of letting people leave the Soviet
- Union. Paradise is a place where people want to end up, not a
- place they run from! Yet in this country, which is supposed to
- be the workers' paradise, the doors are closed and locked. What
- kind of socialism is that? What kind of shit is it when you
- have to keep people in chains? Some curse me for the times I
- opened the doors. If God had given me the chance to continue,
- I would have thrown the doors and windows wide open.
-
- The revolution was made for a piece of bread. We must
- provide that bread. Through the existing system it is not
- possible to acquire food on time and in the quantity needed.
- Moscow can't satisfy the needs of its own population, yet it
- is better off than other cities of the Soviet Union. Kiev, for
- example, has always been a mirror that reflected the state of
- agricultural production. Now this mirror shows us a very
- unattractive image.
-
- From the situation in the markets, I believe that the Soviet
- Union has to use the services of capitalism -- the system we
- have made it our goal to defeat (I mean, of course,
- economically). We ought to be able to give our people more than
- the capitalist world gives. After all, the Soviet socialist
- system is the most progressive in the world. Yet even after 50
- years, communist parties are still unable to win in
- parliamentary elections. This is something to think about.
- People refuse to follow us. We are not yet a mirror into which
- the West wants to look. We have to create tangible advantages
- and therefore create conditions for the victory of our way of
- life. This is the question of questions.
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- A SUDDEN DEATH
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- I saw Stalin's wife Nadezhda Sergeyevna Alliluyeva just
- before the end of her life in 1932. It was, I think, at the
- celebration for the October Revolution. There was a parade in
- Red Square, and Alliluyeva and I were standing next to each
- other by the Lenin Mausoleum and talking. It was a cold, windy
- day. As usual, Stalin was wearing his military greatcoat. The
- upper button was left undone. She glanced at him and said, "My
- man didn't wear his scarf again. He will catch cold and get
- sick." I could tell from the way she said this that she was in
- her usual good humor.
-
- The next day Lazar Kaganovich, one of Stalin's lieutenants,
- summoned the party secretaries for a meeting and said that
- Nadezhda Sergeyevna had died suddenly. I asked myself, "How can
- it be? I just talked to her. Such a beautiful woman." However,
- people sometimes just up and die.
-
- In a day or two, Kaganovich gathered the same group and
- said, "I'm speaking on Stalin's behalf. He asked me to bring
- you together and tell you what really happened. She didn't die
- naturally. She committed suicide." He didn't go into details,
- and we didn't ask any questions.
-
- We buried her. Stalin seemed to be suffering at the grave.
- I do not know how he felt on the inside, but outwardly he
- mourned.
-
- After Stalin's death, the story of her death became known
- to me. Of course, this is not documented. Vlasik, the chief of
- Stalin's bodyguards, said that after the parade everybody went
- to [military commissar] Kliment Voroshilov's big apartment for
- dinner. After parades and that kind of thing they always went
- to the home of Voroshilov to eat.
-
- The marshal of the parade and some members of the Politburo
- went there directly from Red Square. Everyone drank, as is
- usual in such cases. Finally, everyone left. So did Stalin. But
- he didn't go home.
-
- It was late. Who knows what time it was. Nadezhda Sergeyevna
- got worried. She started searching for him by phoning out to
- one of the dachas. She asked the duty officer, "Is Stalin
- there?"
-
- "Yes," he answered, "Comrade Stalin is here."
-
- "Who's there with him?"
-
- He named a woman. She was the wife of a military man named
- Gusev, who had also been present at the dinner. When Stalin
- left, he took her with him. I was told she was very beautiful.
- So Stalin was sleeping with her there at the dacha and
- Alliluyeva learned about it from the duty officer.
-
- In the morning -- I don't know exactly when -- Stalin came
- home and Nadezhda Sergeyevna was no longer alive. She didn't
- leave a note, or if there was one, it was never revealed to us.
-
- Vlasik later said, "That duty officer was an inexperienced
- fool. She asked him, and he just told her everything."
-
- Later there were rumors that maybe Stalin killed her. This
- side of the story is not clear, but the other side seems to be
- more certain. Vlasik was, after all, a bodyguard.
-
- I remember once coming to Stalin's after Nadezhda's death
- and seeing a beautiful young woman with dark skin. She was from
- the Caucasus. When I entered, she disappeared like a mouse. I
- was told she was a tutor for Stalin's children; but she was not
- there for long. Later she vanished. From something Lavrenti
- Beria, Stalin's last police chief, said, I understood that she
- had appeared on the scene at his recommendation. Beria really
- knew how to pick these "tutors."
-
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- WORDS OF THANKS
-
-
- In the days leading up to Stalin's death, we believed
- America would invade the Soviet Union. That's why antiaircraft
- batteries surrounded Moscow and were manned around the clock.
- Live shells were laid out next to the guns. Stalin was afraid
- that the capitalist countries would attack us. First and
- foremost, that meant America, with its powerful Air Force and
- its atom bombs.
-
- We had only just developed the device and had few bombs. Our
- own people who dealt with nuclear-energy problems did a good
- job, but I'll share a secret with you: we got assistance from
- some good people who helped us master the production of nuclear
- energy faster than we would have otherwise, and who helped us
- produce our first atom bomb.
-
- These people suffered for what they believed in. They were
- committed to ideas. They were neither agents nor spies for the
- Soviet Union. Rather, they were people sympathetic to our
- ideals. They acted on their progressive views, without seeking
- any payment. I say "progressive" because I don't think they
- were communists. They did what they could to help the Soviet
- Union acquire the atom bomb so that it could stand up to the
- United States of America. That was the issue of the times.
-
- I don't mean to diminish the merits and accomplishments of
- our own scientists, but one must not discount the help that was
- provided to us by our friends. Those friends suffered; they
- were punished. But their names are known, and thanks to their
- help we were able to build the atom bomb. We did that to
- achieve equality.
-
- I was part of Stalin's circle when he mentioned the
- Rosenbergs with warmth. I cannot specifically say what kind of
- help they gave us, but I heard from both Stalin and Molotov,
- then Minister of Foreign Affairs, that the Rosenbergs provided
- very significant help in accelerating the production of our
- atom bomb.
-
- Let this be a worthy tribute to the memory of those people.
- Let my words serve as an expression of gratitude to those who
- sacrificed their lives to a great cause of the Soviet state at
- a time when the U.S. was using its advantage over us to
- blackmail our state and undermine our proletarian cause.
- [Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in the electric chair
- in New York in 1953 after being convicted of conspiracy to
- commit espionage by spying on American atom bomb secrets for
- the Soviet Union.]
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- "IT WAS A MISTAKE"
-
-
- On the radio these days [Khrushchev was recording this in
- late 1968] I often hear irresponsible statements about
- Czechoslovakia. Honestly, I don't understand how we could have
- reached this critical state of affairs. The Czechoslovak people
- are our closest allies and most loyal partners in the struggle
- to build socialism. I simply can't accept the accusation that
- they have succumbed to imperialist propaganda, that they want
- to change the course of their society and return to capitalism.
- I just don't believe it. It contradicts all my understanding
- of progressive Marxist-Leninist teachings.
-
- Obviously, bad feelings run deep and have affected the wide
- masses. There is no other explanation for the fact that when
- our troops invaded Czechoslovakia, there were instances when
- they were fired upon and sustained casualties. I have heard of
- cases where coffins were brought home and funeral services
- conducted in secret. I can only imagine the suffering of those
- who lost loved ones during the invasion.
-
- It was a mistake to send our troops into Czechoslovakia. Now
- the wise and logical thing is to take them back out. The sooner
- the better. The presence of Soviet troops in Czechoslovakia is
- seen as a sign of disrespect for their government's
- sovereignty.
-
- I think time will heal these wounds. The Czechoslovak people
- will fall into step with the people of the other socialist
- countries, especially with the Soviet people. Our goals are the
- same -- to work side by side in the struggle for socialism and
- communism. I think all will turn out well in the end.
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